S4 E11: More Truth

May 27, 2020

How well do the news media serve us as citizens, and what role does the notion of “objective,” or “neutral,” journalism play in the failings of American democracy?

Story reported by Lewis Raven Wallace, with host/producer John Biewen and collaborator Chenjerai Kumanyika. Interviews with David Mindich, Nikole Hannah-Jones, and Kevin Young.

The series editor is Loretta Williams. The View from Somewhere editor: Ramona Martinez. Music by Algiers, John Erik Kaada, Eric Neveux, and Lucas Biewen. Music consulting and production help from Joe Augustine of Narrative Music. 

Photo: Ida B. Wells. Courtesy of Special Collections Research Center, University of Chicago Library

Download a transcript of the episode here.

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13 comments on “S4 E11: More Truth

  1. John do you and Chenjerai ever disagree about any topic or detail you’ve discussed during this shows series? Is it really a discussion if there is never a debate or is it just an echo chamber?

    • Matthew C Webster Jun 3, 2020

      What should they be debating, Levi? I am interested to hear your thoughts since you’ve labeled the dialogue and echo chamber.

  2. Kayleigh Boucher May 31, 2020

    Just want to point out that you have misgendered Lewis Raven Wallace near the beginning of this episode. I love and appreciate this podcast and just don’t want it to go unnoticed in case it can be corrected.

    • Fiona Aug 19, 2020

      Came here to say the same thing! I’m glad people are addressing it!

      • Stacy Sep 9, 2020

        Kumanyika also misgenders Wallace at the end of the episode. It was jarring given how thoughtful he and Biewen are in their usual treatment of their subjects. Surprised not to see any response to the comments here or an acknowledgement of the error.

        • Sarah Nov 1, 2020

          When did he misgender Lewis? Their pronouns are ‘he’, ‘they’, and ‘ze’, according to their website. I only heard him use ‘he’, which is one of their pronouns.

  3. Kathy Jun 5, 2020

    This week’s NYT Tom Cotton op-ed’s debacle is yet another example of how much this particular episode of this season’s terrific series has immediately shifted my lens -and listening/reading/watching of the media I listen to and read. And now of course I see this misguided/lost opportunity in the name of “objectivity” happening all the time –and am grateful I can now practice noticing and taking action. I have already sent links to this series and especially More Truth to multiple people and news outlets including Maine’s public broadcast station, MPBN (it had described protest from earlier this week as ” protesters against, some say, systemic racism.”) Thank you John & Chenjerai (and for the work of Lewis Raven Wallace in Ep. 11).

  4. Do you have a transcript for this?

    • cdsduke Jun 8, 2020


      The transcript isn’t ready yet but it is forthcoming! When it is ready, it will be posted here.


      • Ray Pang Jun 24, 2020


        Any idea when the transcript will be ready?

      • Filipa A Rodrigues Jun 30, 2020

        Hi! Is the transcript available at this moment?

        • cdsduke Jul 1, 2020


          I’m working on the last couple of transcripts and hope to have them up as soon as I can, today or tomorrow!


  5. Kate T. Fellows Nov 7, 2020

    I can’t thank you enough for these voices of sanity…